tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post2847280246609691935..comments2024-01-03T18:00:06.854-06:00Comments on Webutante: Clarification On Comments HereWebutantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02139954791621532194noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-10535700248650302952009-09-24T14:34:11.412-05:002009-09-24T14:34:11.412-05:00To the Chinese commenter(s) that are attempting to...To the Chinese commenter(s) that are attempting to post here:<br /><br />I DO NOT POST COMMENTS UNLESS I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY SAY!! YOU WILL NOT BE PUBLISHED HERE UNLESS YOU POST IN ENGLISH AND THEN HAVE THE COMMENT OK'ED BY ME. IF YOU CONTINUE THIS NONSENSE, I'LL CONTACT BLOGGER...Webutantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02139954791621532194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-74838534386979806332009-07-14T17:54:31.501-05:002009-07-14T17:54:31.501-05:00No more off-topic, wide ranging, unprofessional, h...No more off-topic, wide ranging, unprofessional, hateful rants here to put down conservatives anyway possible.<br /><br />Nothing you will write here right now, Ellen, will be read or published. Try again when you've adjusted your attitude.<br /><br />Good day.Webutantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02139954791621532194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-31081874219622468092009-07-14T17:35:44.302-05:002009-07-14T17:35:44.302-05:00Ellen, This site is not a place where you can com...Ellen, This site is not a place where you can come anymore to spew your conservative hate on any subject---no matter how inappropriate or off topic---any time. This post is not about Tennessee Tea Parties, cuts in funding for the arts and the percentage of federal moneies go to Tennessee (I wish it were NONE).<br /><br />The prior post that inspired this one was about Sarah Palin and how her enemies and the MSM hounded her out of office. If you want to EVER get a comment published again, then stay on topic or else you'll be wasting your time.<br /><br />Your current comment was rejected.Webutantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02139954791621532194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-38934970852360780442009-07-13T20:43:59.171-05:002009-07-13T20:43:59.171-05:00Ah, Rita...haven't we been here before?Ah, Rita...haven't we been here before?Webutantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02139954791621532194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-60463988339886562612009-07-13T20:12:45.436-05:002009-07-13T20:12:45.436-05:00Interesting...Interesting...Rita Locahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09961929692808138092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-73641890505685710662009-07-13T19:16:26.387-05:002009-07-13T19:16:26.387-05:00Yes, Henry Ford was exemplery, as my father who ha...Yes, Henry Ford was exemplery, as my father who had over 200 people in his small town business workforce. Yet it was never unions or government mandates that kept his men there. They were always treated fairly and better than any public or private mandates and if for any reason they weren't, they could always leave and find a better employer....it's the American way.Webutantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02139954791621532194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-28755906264876779012009-07-13T19:10:27.364-05:002009-07-13T19:10:27.364-05:00Wow, the irony of this comment is strking: "...Wow, the irony of this comment is strking: "we can be both patriotic and complicit in supporting something that can have a very long term harmful effect on our country and we're not even aware of it until one day we wake up and realize certain things may be gone", given the very recent revelations of rampant domestic spying during the Bush years. "Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."<br /><br />Hmm. I don't know anyone on the left who supports raising the minimun wage "world without end." I do know people who support a living wage. My father in law started his union job making $3.14 an hour when he worked for Henry Ford's company - a guy who took a lot of pride in paying his workers a salary they could raise a family on. <br /><br />"Henry Ford was a pioneer of "welfare capitalism" designed to improve the lot of his workers and especially to reduce the heavy turnover that had many departments hiring 300 men per year to fill 100 slots. Efficiency meant hiring and keeping the best workers.<br /><br />Ford announced his $5-per-day program on January 5, 1914. The revolutionary program called for a raise in minimum daily pay from $2.34 to $5 for qualifying workers. It also set a new, reduced workweek, although the details vary in different accounts. Ford and Crowther in 1922 described it as six 8-hour days, giving a 48-hour week,[15] while in 1926 they described it as five 8-hour days, giving a 40-hour week.[16] (Apparently the program started with Saturdays as workdays and sometime later made them days off.) Ford says that with this voluntary change, labor turnover in his plants went from huge to so small that he stopped bothering to measure it.[17]<br /><br />When Ford started the 40-hour work week and a minimum wage he was criticized by other industrialists and by Wall Street. He proved, however, that paying people more would enable Ford workers to afford the cars they were producing and be good for the economy."<br /><br />Companies can find a way to pay a living wage to their employees if they think there's value in doing that. Most companies don't value it, unfortunately, which I understand that people view as a positive. I view it as a negative.vienna vanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-557029335651605342009-07-13T18:19:53.251-05:002009-07-13T18:19:53.251-05:00Yes patriots do come in every possible description...Yes patriots do come in every possible description---we can finally agree. And my point is that often we can be both patriotic and complicit in supporting something that can have a very long term harmful effect on our country and we're not even aware of it until one day we wake up and realize certain things may be gone.<br /><br />Most people, as I once did, automatically support raising the minimum wage, world without end---sounds like such a noble idea---but when we learn raising it has the side effect of shutting many people out entering the job force, then we need to be aware of that too. A company, especially in hard times, that is forced to pay a higher minimum wage will cut jobs and do whatever it must to stay in business...often putting a freeze on new hiring. Just one such example that stikes me as salient.Webutantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02139954791621532194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-7219377298305060512009-07-13T18:05:23.934-05:002009-07-13T18:05:23.934-05:00See, that's funny because my pay check went up...See, that's funny because my pay check went up under Obama. I'll bet only America hating libtards get that benefit. Yeah for us!! :)<br /><br />I'm sorry to have to disagree about patriotism again. My experience as a military spouse (damn, why do I keep bringing that up? it's like it has meaning in my life or something...sorry to bring it up again) has enabled us to live all over the country and the world, and I gotta tell you: patriots come in all shapes, sizes, colors, religions - and yes, political parties, too. One of my best friends is a HUGE Sarah Palin backer - we had dinner with her and her husband (also military) about 3 days after she was nominated, and boy was she pysched! She was so excited and it was hard not to catch her entusiasm. After the election, he said something very wise to me: we all love America, we just differ on how to get her in the right direction. And, trust me, she'd give you a run for your money when it comes to conservatism.<br /><br />And I grew up in a small town, too (population: 9,400). I think you and I probably share some small town values: hard work, honesty, doing the right thing. I try to pass those on to my kids and my community, mostly through scouting and sports (sorry to mention those again). My experience is people on all sides share those values, not just conservatives.<br /><br />That's my $.02, for what it's worth, which doesn't seem to be much 'round these parts.vienna vanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-43316366617334580222009-07-13T17:25:40.001-05:002009-07-13T17:25:40.001-05:00Thank you for an obtuse compliment....I knew there...Thank you for an obtuse compliment....I knew there was something there in all that by-gone rhetoric.<br /><br />Just so your imagination won't run too far and wildly asunder, I almost never talk politics with my family and children. I'll just let Obama hand them their new tax bill. That's why I'm here. <br /><br />There is also a great contingency of true conservatives in my family. And we have such a good time together.Webutantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02139954791621532194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623438328827408121.post-50152359469699488462009-07-13T17:06:55.258-05:002009-07-13T17:06:55.258-05:00ya know, friend, if you're going to attribute ...ya know, friend, if you're going to attribute quotes to me (which you do whem you put them "" things around a sentence), you might try gettin' it right. I NEVER said you're lucky to have liberals in your life. I said you're lucky to have friends and family who are Democrats who sit back and listen to you blame them for the downfall of America. Big difference. And it was supposed to be a COMPLIMENT to you and your friends, because you obviously have many great qualities that your friends and family appreciate enough to take the general nonsense about leftists. It obviously went over your head, and I apologize for that; I shouldn't have been so obtuse. <br /><br />Off to contribute to the downfall of America! Best to you.vienna vanoreply@blogger.com